Here at New York City Bartenders & Patrons (nycbp.com), we salute you. We need MORE bars in the East Village. I'm going to lunch at Doc Holliday's today and talk to the regulars, and then walk from 9th Street to Houston and keep a list of empty storefronts.
Oh yeah, they don't serve food at Doc's. I guess it's whiskey again.
Posted by: kevin at December 16, 2003 11:53 AMAnna Sawaryn needs to get fucked. Hard.
Posted by: shookout at December 16, 2003 01:12 PMIf she drank more she might.
Posted by: futuredead at December 16, 2003 06:36 PMThis whole blog is a rip off of lockhartsteele.com! You should be ashamed of yourselves!!!!!
Posted by: jen at December 17, 2003 09:57 AMUnless the people complaining have been living on the Lower Eastside for at least 15 years I don't want to hear their complaints about the bars. Most of the new arrivals that complain about bars came down here to party, and then stayed when they had kids. Now the neighborhood is supposed to quiet down for the sake of their brood. Next time use birth control.
Posted by: Chris at December 17, 2003 04:19 PMBars need to exist and Bars need to behave as well. Bloomberg did not help matters by pushing the smokers out onto the streets, but I'm glad he did because now I don't reek when I come home. (well, just of gin). A city is a vibrant thing and should stay that way.
Posted by: Mayor koch at December 18, 2003 11:03 AMi've been a resident in the evil for a long time. the problem is the increasing incidents in the neighborhood. i like to go out to bars, etc. but it's become messy and dangerous. the new bars are shitty and attract lame crowds. over the past few years i've seen more puking/peeing on my building, trash throw up & down the streets, harassment by visitors while i walk my dog that could have become violent (unprovoked), people try to physically force their way into my building (then puke), scream at the top of their lungs at 4am...to name a few problems. because of this, i don't go out on weekends so i cannot enjoy these bars myself! trust me, it's gotten progressively worse and i'd like to move for this very reason. chalk it up to many bad apples ruining it for the rest of us.
Posted by: eVil Resident at December 19, 2003 11:40 AMi've been a resident in the evil for a long time. the problem is the increasing incidents in the neighborhood. i like to go out to bars, etc. but it's become messy and dangerous. the new bars are shitty and attract lame crowds. over the past few years i've seen more puking/peeing on my building, trash throw up & down the streets, harassment by visitors while i walk my dog that could have become violent (unprovoked), people try to physically force their way into my building (then puke), scream at the top of their lungs at 4am...to name a few problems. because of this, i don't go out on weekends so i cannot enjoy these bars myself! trust me, it's gotten progressively worse and i'd like to move for this very reason. chalk it up to many bad apples ruining it for the rest of us.
...And that's just Lockhart!
badda bing...snare drum...
Posted by: sammy maudlin at December 23, 2003 10:08 AMSome people are under the inpression that my neighborhood is a 24 hour a day party. These people don't actually live here - They come here to party.
Well that's just fine - A neighborhood like ours needs entertainment - But with a dozen bars on each block, this is rediculous.
I live here and I've lived here for over thirty years. I don't have a problem with people having a good time - But real people get up in the morning and go to work - We don't need a 24 hour a day party on each and every block.
We don't need drunks pissing in every doorway and drunks fighting and harrasing people. This is a community - Tourists in reasonable numbers are welcome - What's going on now is just plain bullshit, which you would never tolerate in your own community.
Dave
Posted by: David Barkin at December 30, 2003 11:45 AMThe thing is, there are some places that respect the neighborhood and participate in community events, and I don't have a problem with those places at all, no matter how trendy they are or were. Especially since the smoking ban, those more neighborhood-y hangouts have made a concerted effort to keep people respectful of the fact that yes, there are people trying to live here (often because they live here themselves). Other establishments, however, do nothing to curb the puking, the crowding of the sidewalks, etc., and I refuse to patronize them. It's that easy.
I moved down here a few years ago for two main reasons: the vibrancy of the neighborhood and its sense of true community, as well as the fact that there were cool places to go out within walking distance. I think that's true of anyone that's moved here within the last 5 years, and that accounts for (I imagine) the majority of people that read this site.
So, if this shit pisses you off, do something about it. Don't go to those places and let them know why. I mean, I freely yell at people peeing in the doorways (tho I have the crazy lady look, so people don't generally fight back). Take your neighborhood back, kids. It's not that hard.
Posted by: deanna at December 30, 2003 03:44 PMI feel your pain with the bars and all, but I do recall not so long ago, lines of junkies snaking through the hood and needles stuck in necks and psst.. "nickel bag" and muggings and so it IS better now, but still I understand the problems...
Posted by: mayor koch at December 31, 2003 01:36 PMBars and Restaurants do a great job of entertaining us all. But dont forget they're primary purpose is profit. Even the most "neighborhood friendly " hang-out will or can do very little about the people talking and yelling until 3 or 4am every night, the wine-and-beer-bottle-breaking in the garbage bag disposal and garbage truck pick-ups night after night. We who live in the East Village (there are 5 bar/restaurants on my block) can do very little to fight the noise except to call 311 and complain, or at least say enough is enough.
Posted by: resident at January 1, 2004 03:21 PMI don't mind bars, but all the good ones are gone!
must of this new bars are design in a way that only a yupie would feel confortable in there, i remember there was a really good bar in the corner of 9 and "c" with punk dj's now everyfucking place plays pretty much the same garbage music, horse shoe still stands or sophies
but even the fucking library is a yupie place now.
if i want to have a beer with some friends at 5 or 6 pm everywhere is empty, because the people from the village now are mainly 9 to 5ers, do with this hood as you please, i'm out of here like must of my friends already did.
I am new to the internet and I am surfing here and this is very interesting reading. I did a search in the search engines on "pub bar entertainment blog" and I found your web blog and although "East Village Bar Project" isnot the bar I was looking for, it was very interesting reading.
I am researching blogs as I was interested in a blog for myself, that is if I can understand how to operate a blog. The different things discussed on this website found by searching for "pub bar entertainment blog" is very amusing and from seeing and understanding more of how a blog operates, it may be more than this Halifax pub guy to handle.
thanks for the insight
see you at the pub ( some call it bar! )
B. J. Johns,
A Halifax Pub Enthusiast
I would advise "the resident" to get acquainted with spell check while the rest of us enjoy a drink in his or her neighborhood.
Posted by: yupie? at February 13, 2004 04:42 PMthere are a fuck-load of bars in those areas. is there really a need for another pianos? they should just establish a number of liquor licenses and a waiting list. the people that open these things these days all seem like shmucks anyway openeing yet another over-decorative and over-rpiced place for wall street brokers to stop by before going home to e. 86th. what the LES needs is some tea rooms like they have in vancouver and amsterdam. i'd vote for that. and more housing.
Posted by: angelo at February 13, 2004 07:48 PMAhhh man dude shut up. This is so lame. The whole point of the East Village is that it IS a party 24 hours a day. I've lived here for years, and I love the loudness and craziness of it all. If you don't like all the "young hipster partiers" down here, then you know it's time for you to move out of the village and get your ass up to the upper east side, cause you're too damn old to be here anyway anymore.
If you don't like it, there are plenty of places in the city that are quiet. AKA anything above 14th Street.
Posted by: Caitlin at February 15, 2004 09:51 AMHey, don't get me wrong: I love grittiness and urban noise and all, but opening more yuppie cocktail bars is not doing much for LES street cred. [Also: who fucking cares if FreshDirect doesn't deliver? Who's been cooking at home in the LES lately?]
I tell you what I'd like: more people who could care less about a $8 blueberry martini and yet another lame cocktail bar for the Starbucks set. Isn't that Gramercy's role?
Please, let's put an end to highly-decorated and embellished yuppie bars built by very rich inve$tors, emceed by DJs with iPODS. Yuck.
Posted by: angelo at February 23, 2004 12:34 AMI will be coming to stay in East Village for a week at the end of the month (April 2004). I am 32 and have some grey hair. My gf is 26. We want to find some bars that we would not feel uncomfortable in.
We bother prefer hip/hop, jazz, funk r and b to the rock scene.
We both like cocktails and a good cold beer.
Any recommendations?
Posted by: Damian at April 11, 2004 10:53 AMI don't live in the East Village, but i've lived in NYC all my life. I've visited the East Village many times. You could say I'm a tourist living in NYC, like many neighborhoods "The Village" will change sometimes not for the good of it's residents. I love NYC. I hope you will visit my website NYspot.com and find out why people love NYC & "The Village"
Posted by: Ace at April 27, 2004 11:53 PM